Irish Republican Bonds [solved]

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This message aims at: requesting the modification of a banknote in the catalogue

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ceh2019
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Posted: 21 May 2020, 14:34 #
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Three Irish Republican Bonds have been added to our Ireland section:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note214488.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note214491.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note214492.html
However, these never circulated in Ireland and were, in fact, issued in the USA to raise funds. Where should we put them and what should we call them?
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
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Posted: 21 May 2020, 16:05 #
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They are listed under 'Ireland' in the Pick Specialised catalogue.

They are in the same vein as the Hungarian exile notes of Lajos Kossuth.

Aidan.
ceh2019
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Posted: 21 May 2020, 16:08 #
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We know where Pick lists them. The question is where we should list them and what type we should assign to them. There's been some discussion about propaganda notes elsewhere but this isn't currently an available type option.
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Posted: 11 Haz 2020, 17:56 #
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They have 'PS' catalogue numbers.

Aidan.
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Posted: 11 May 2021, 00:24 #
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We finally got the option to manually move pages from Banknotes to Exonumia. These notes all have their movement pending. :)
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Posted: 22 Haz 2022, 10:53 #
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Those should NOT be under ‘Exonumia’.

 

Aidan.

ceh2019
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Posted: 22 Haz 2022, 10:55 #
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Those should NOT be under ‘Exonumia’.

 

Aidan.

Why not? They were never used as money, just fund-raising receipts.

Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
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Posted: 22 Haz 2022, 11:54 #
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I think Exonumia is the right place for these.

They aren't banknotes, and never circulated as such.

 

Collectors had an interest in them because they resembled banknotes, were a cool design and historically interesting.

 

There are others as well, but they are less note-like, and more bond-like, so less interesting to note collectors

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Posted: 22 Haz 2022, 12:00 #
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Hibernia

I think Exonumia is the right place for these.

They aren't banknotes, and never circulated as such.

 

Collectors had an interest in them because they resembled banknotes, were a cool design and historically interesting.

 

There are others as well, but they are less note-like, and more bond-like, so less interesting to note collectors

 

If I was offered these at a reasonable price, I would add them to my collection, considering their historical interest in relation to Ireland's history leading up to the Home Rule Act & the Easter Rising.

 

Aidan.

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Posted: 22 Haz 2022, 12:17 #
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You sometimes see them on ebay in genuine auctions. A 5 Dollar around Fine grade sells here in the £150-£200 region.

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