Quote: "CassTaylor""Lost in the midst of the vast British domain, these ports are nearly worthless. They are treasured by France for their sentimental value."
Quote: "Salaction"Damn India has been a lot lol, british danish Dutch French Portuguese some maghal, ancient and current :O
To be fair it was mostly only British, all the others (apart from the Mughals) only ruled tiny costal exclaves from the mid-18th century onwards. The Wikipedia page for the Comptoirs des Indes (the vestiges of French India after the Seven Years' War), has a postcard from 1920 that says of French India:
"Lost in the midst of the vast British domain, these ports are nearly worthless. They are treasured by France for their sentimental value."
there were several powers to rule much of the subcontinent and beyond starting with the Mauryas and until the Mughals. The maratha confederacy was also formidable though loosely aligned.
As for the former French ruled territories, I meant to visit Pondicherry early this year on my bi-annual vacation in India. But since that didn’t happen, it’s definitely on my to-do list next year. Pondicherry is very small, and perhaps not worth more than a day, but it is very charming. However, unlike the Portuguese and the British, the French, Dutch and danish did not leave a lasting impression in India in any meaningful way
Quote: "CassTaylor""Lost in the midst of the vast British domain, these ports are nearly worthless. They are treasured by France for their sentimental value."
Almost like when you lose your doudou
I hope someday I will have a doudou to lose as well.
Quote: "ashlobo"
there were several powers to rule much of the subcontinent and beyond starting with the Mauryas and until the Mughals. The maratha confederacy was also formidable though loosely aligned.
Definitely, I was only referring to the ones that we have as separate issuers under India. Pre-1858 Indian history is not exactly my forte, but that's what you get when your sources are primarily Eurocentric.
Curious about the Portuguese though, how much of an impression did they leave in their exclaves? Sounds like a similar situation to Macau; as a Sinophile I've been meaning to go to Tsingtao and Zhanjiang to check out whether German and French influence can be felt as much as I did British and Portuguese influence can be in Hong Kong and Macau.
ND (1811-13) Mysore 20 Cash - Krishna Raja Wodeyar https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces140225.html
These photos taken from the coin's page, but they are of my coin. Really love these crudely struck Mysore coins!
AH 1323 (1905) Hyderabad 1 Rupee - Mir Mahbub Ali Khan https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27364.html
Hyderabad was a princely state that refused to join either the independent states of India or Pakistan after the Partition of 1947; being a primarily Muslim state geographically enclaved within India, India invaded it the following year.
Quote: "CassTaylor""Lost in the midst of the vast British domain, these ports are nearly worthless. They are treasured by France for their sentimental value."
Almost like when you lose your doudou
I hope someday I will have a doudou to lose as well.
Quote: "ashlobo"
there were several powers to rule much of the subcontinent and beyond starting with the Mauryas and until the Mughals. The maratha confederacy was also formidable though loosely aligned.
Definitely, I was only referring to the ones that we have as separate issuers under India. Pre-1858 Indian history is not exactly my forte, but that's what you get when your sources are primarily Eurocentric.
Curious about the Portuguese though, how much of an impression did they leave in their exclaves? Sounds like a similar situation to Macau; as a Sinophile I've been meaning to go to Tsingtao and Zhanjiang to check out whether German and French influence can be felt as much as I did British and Portuguese influence can be in Hong Kong and Macau.
in western India and especially along the konkan coast from Maharashtra to Karnataka and of course in goa, the Portuguese left marks in language, culture, cuisine and religion. My last name is Portuguese just to give you an idea. Words such as batata and ananas which are used in Marathi/Konkani are Portuguese. You will find a lot of fusion info-portuguese architecture in several cities/towns/villages in the konkan region.
They were active (for better or worse) in bringing in Christian missionaries like the jesuits who set up colleges, schools and hospitals all over. It’s no coincidence today that 20% of all education is provided by Christian (mainly catholic) organisations. 2.5% (or approx 30million) of the population of India is Christian (mostly catholic) hailing from regions around Bombay, goa, mangalore and Kerala. To put that into perspective, that’s more than Jains or sikhs in India (15million and 26million respectively)
... just referring to Macau, I expected more considering the Portuguese were there till 1999. It pales in comparison to goa. And goa is considered a laid back resort destination. Imo Macau is worth a few hours visit. A day is too much
Quotehttps://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27364.htmlHyderabad was a princely state that refused to join either the independent states of India or Pakistan after the Partition of 1947; being a primarily Muslim state geographically enclaved within India, India invaded it the following year.
VS 1985 (1928) Mewar 1 Rupee - Fatteh Singh
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36677.html
I’m afraid you’re factually wrong. Hyderabad was a state borne out of the decay of the Mughal empire. The Nizams were former generals of Turkish descent hired by the Mughal emperors who saw their chance to declare themselves kings. Hyderabad was overwhelmingly Hindu (just as junagarh) ruled by a Muslim dynasty. The Indian union under the stewardship of the country’s first interior minister, Sardar vallabhbhai patel made it clear to the nizam thAt he would not accept an independent Hyderabad state in the heart of the new republic (it would have constituted 1/3rd of today’s republic). On a side note, thé nuzsm was the richest man in the world at the time.
Fair enough, I'll have to defer to your greater knowledge about the subject. That's my TIL for today.
I assumed it was Muslim because of the use of the Islamic calendar (AH) on their coins and the "92" reference to Muhammad, but I guess the ruling dynasty got to decide what went the coins.
Quote: "CassTaylor"Fair enough, I'll have to defer to your greater knowledge about the subject. That's my TIL for today.
I assumed it was Muslim because of the use of the Islamic calendar (AH) on their coins and the "92" reference to Muhammad, but I guess the ruling dynasty got to decide what went the coins.
my intention some day is to start writing up a world country coin chat series of the 550+ Indian princely states that were amalgamated into the republic of India (a few did go to Pakistan). So basically all the states that existed between 1945-48)
the indian union also also invaded goa in 1961 after it became clear the Salazar regime had no intention of ceding goa to the republic. A couple of Portuguese gun boat and the airport was bombed, but other than that the Portuguese could not put up any resistance. The Portuguese viceroy (or whatever his designation) was instructed to burn down panjim and mapusa rather than hand it over to the Indians. He disobeyed that order. The Indian govt took him as a guest of honour rather than a pow. He was handed over to the Portuguese and imprisoned till the April revolution. He returned to India again (not sure if more than once) as a welcomed guest of the government.
My favourite NEI coin, because of it's age; the early silver issues of the Dutch East Indies are pretty scarce, especially since these coins were demonetised at the decimalisation of the guilder in 1854.
Iran is one of those countries that I keep wanting to buy older coins from, but every time I have the opportunity to, a similarly priced coin from one of my primary collection countries comes along and I have to spend my money on that instead.....
1323 (1944) Iran 1 Rial - Mohammad Rezā Pahlavī https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10723.html
Some serious ghosting of the Persian lion is visible on the reverse of this coin, behind the numeral.
½ Penny - George III - Hibernia/ Ireland - 1805
Hibernia is the classical latin, greek /Roman term for Ireland, not a name in general use when talking about Ireland https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces8347.html
50 year celebration of the Easter uprising that brought about the Irish republic and an end to 700 years of British rule in Ireland.
Image is Padraig Pearse one of the leaders of the the Irish uprising
Quote: "sc.rednek"A British coin celebrating USA independence
Yeah, they went a step too far with commemorating US independence
To make a little sense the Isle of Man has an independent government and bank not completely tied to the bank of England, there sympathies would possibly lie more towards the Gaelic side, half way between Ireland and once owned by Scotland, with the Highland clearances in Scotland and the potato famine in Ireland leading to mass migration to the Americas of the Gaelic/ Celtic races, this could go some way to explaining why the Isle of man would celebrate USA independence, they would not be looking for any sanctioning from a London based bank or government as they are independent and can do as they please.
it's quite clear on a lot of there coinage that they lean towards the old Gaelic way of things!.
people talking without speaking, people hearing without listening
200 year since the death of the world's greatest poet and Scotland's greatest son, a legend!
most people in the world would have sung burns, author of " Auld Lang Syne" new year song
Also, my coin for the Isle of Man: 1758 Isle of Man 1/2 Penny - James Murray https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces43114.html
Monogram is almost completely worn off, but the side with the triskelion is relatively intact.
Quote: "CassTaylor"20th November: Isles de France et Bonaparte
I'd be REALLY surprised if anyone has the 10 livres coin from here... phfoticus maybe?
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I don't have any coins from the Isles of France and Bonaparte.
The Numista rarity index is only 92, so apparently a few folks on Numista have this coin.
Quote: "CassTaylor"20th November: Isles de France et Bonaparte
I'd be REALLY surprised if anyone has the 10 livres coin from here... phfoticus maybe?
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I don't have any coins from the Isles of France and Bonaparte.
The Numista rarity index is only 92, so apparently a few folks on Numista have this coin.
There are 5 members who state that they have it, but I cannot guarantee that they do have it :)
To keep on the Napoleon theme and not overload this thread with a ga-zillion images here's a 5 lire of mine. I was also looking for my 20 lire, but can't find the pictures. Oh well.
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
Sadly, I did not get access to my nicer pieces today. But here's a partial pre-wwii type set I tried to put together in a rush! I am missing some of the most common types, but I hadn't realized Italy was coming up today and no gold was at hand...
Also, a little challenge. One of the coppers is worth much more than the euro I paid for it. Can you find it?
(goodness, I can't type today)
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!